Get out yer split shot.
Fishing the Upper Sac is like that sometimes.
It’s something I have yet to see, but, that’s because I haven’t done this enough yet (by the way, I will never do this enough, there is no “enough”).
Sharks, Cuda’s, they dig bonefish the same way I dig bacon or the Pulled Pork Sandwich at Dunsmuir Brewery Works.
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The Wild About Glass website has the art of David Oppenheimer. Included in his portfolio are all sorts of inshore species… tarpon, snook, trout and, of course, bonefish. The bonefish he has on offer is 32″. You need to call or email David about pricing.
I like this stuff. My grandfather used to do stained glass… flowers, birds… good looking pieces of art that have hung in the windows of the various parts of our family for years. Wouldn’t mind a bonefish in the window.
If you watched Pirates of the Flats last year on ESPN you’ll recognize some of the names… Yvon Chouinard, Tom Brokaw, Michael Keaton and Bill Klyn are all there. New are Zach Gilford and Lori-Ann Murphy.
A new show is in the works, basically Pirates of the Flats 2, but renamed, expanded and moved from the network that no longer supports angling, to a network that does… the Outdoor Network.
The cameras are moving from the flats of Abaco to the flats of Florida and Belize and the target species are expanding from bonefish to include permit and tarpon. The new show films this summer and will broadcast in early 2011.
Once again this will be done in conjunction with the Bonefish and Tarpon Trust, so conservation will be a cornerstone of the program.
Sweet!
I first encountered Vince Tobia on the Fly Fishing Forum/Fly Talk message board. He owns Cattaraugus Creek Outfitters. He has a wide range of offerings, from steelhead to bonefish. His bonefish offerings have stood out to be due to their shear affordability. He is trying to bring “Cheap” and “Bonefish” together and I like that. Vince agreed to answer some questions about bonefish, his trips and his experiences chasing the Gray Ghost.
Vince, I’ve drooled over some of the packaged offered through Cattaraugus Creek Outfitters for a couple years now… you offer a lot of what I’d call “DIY Plus” trips, basically setting out the logistics from folks do go to some great places for self-guided fishing. It is a pretty unique offering. How did you come up with all those packages?
Ever since I went on my first DIY trip over 10 years ago and began exploring Eleuthera and Acklins islands, I thought that I could put together packages to assist anglers wishing to fish those islands on their own. When I started going to these islands, I did the homework beforehand. However, there is no substitute for time on the water, exploring and fishing. The first time you go to an island to fish on your own, without a guide, there is a steep learning curve. You have to find the best flats and fish them at the right times. An angler’s experience level is also a big factor. My goal is to assist the DIY anglers and speed up the learning curve on these islands. When you only have one week to fish without a guide it helps to maximize your odds by fishing the right places at the right times.
I just love exploring remote flats and beaches on my own. The more remote the better. It’s an adrenaline rush for me to be in a remote area, searching for fish. And of course when you find those fish, it’s the icing on the cake. I feel like a kid again rafting down the creeks near my house, having the anticipation that around the next bend there will be a huge bass or pike, waiting to attack!
Of all the places you’ve been, has there ever been a place where the quality of the fishing actually surprised you, in a good way or a bad way?
The fishing in the Seychelles, on Farquhar Atoll, was awesome. Of course I kind of expected that.
Each trip is different. While on Eleuthera this past April, the best day bonefishing we had (where we saw lots of fish and had many good shots) was on the cloudiest day of the week. It even rained on us for a while. Still, we were fishing in the right spot, where you didn’t need to see the fish from 40+ feet before they spooked. I’ve also had some tough days on both Eleuthera and Acklins, when the weather & tides were perfect for bonefish, and I was excited and thought we’d have a great day.
What’s the worst gear malfunction you’ve ever had out on the flats?
I’ve been pretty lucky with gear. No major reel malfunctions. A broken rod on occasion. But we always carry extra ones so it never is a big issue. Preparation is the key.
Do you have a bonefish that stands out in your memory?
While fishing Acklins island @ Grey’s Point Lodge and hosting two weeks there several years ago (a fully guided trip), I was waiting for the next group to arrive at the lodge on Saturday am. The weather was windy and very cloudy–it was very dark. The conditions were poor for flats fishing. I went out anyway and walked the edge of the flat. I hadn’t seen much all am. On my way back I happened to glace behind me ( I often do this as fish sometimes approach from behind, or I may have missed seeing something at first look) and two nice fish were feeding, moving slowly along the shore in about 2 1/2 to 3′ of water. I turned and made a 20′ cast and the bone immediately rushed the fly and was on. It took a couple very nice runs and I landed it within 5 minutes. It was 28 1/2″. It pays to get out and fish, no matter what the conditions–especially when you are there anyway! I’ve caught some nice fish in less than ideal conditions.
There are many other memorable bonefish. Not all of them very big, but I remember some for the particular conditions they were caught under.
What’s your favorite rod/reel these days?
I love the Scott s4s 9′ 8wt. I like my Nautilus, and sage 3400D reels too.
Do you have anything unique on your gear or packing list?
We’ll bring two way radios when DIY fishing, to communicate about what we’re seeing on the flats. That way we can move if we need to, and not waste too much daylight in the wrong area.
I also like to wear a pair of thin surfing neoprene socks that Velcro tight around the shin. I’ll wear a gravel guard over the tops to further prevent sand from getting in. One way to ruin your trip is to get bad blisters on your feet.
The more time you spend on the water the more you see things that others will never see. What’s the weirdest, funniest or most frightening thing you’ve seen out there on the flats?
One time while motoring back to a lodge on South Andros in about 8-10′ of water, the guide suddenly slowed the boat down and started to turn. When I asked him what was wrong, he said “shark.” I’m thinking, so what? We’ve seen dozens of sharks already today, no big deal. The he says “big shark” and we motor up to a hammerhead shark that was as long as the boat! Really big. Biggest I’ve ever seen. It was very cool to see it up close.
Another time on Eleuthera, we’re catching some bones along the beach, in thigh deep water. One of my friends is about to land his bone, holding his rod high in his right hand, and bending down to grab the fish with his left, when all of a sudden there is a huge explosion of water. He looks over at us thinking we are messing with him. Then he sees the huge barracuda that has his bone, and it starts peeling line from his reel. He was a second or two away from a very bad incident. That ‘cuda would have bit his hand–it was that close. I always caution people to be aware of their surroundings and land fish in shallower water. And I always carry a first aid kit in the vehicle, just in case.
A funny story was when we were motoring thru some narrow channels in Mexico, near boca paila. We’re moving at a pretty good clip and we startled a huge school of mullet. I am sitting next to a friend and I see one of the mullet come straight out of the water from the side, and smack him in the side of the head! The whole incident happened like it was in slow motion. He fortunately was not hurt, and it was pretty funny to see.
I know casting is pretty important when it comes to bonefishing. I have my double haul down, but I think of my dad, who has a bit more trouble with casting in the wind for distance or accuracy. Where is the best place for someone like that to go if they want to get into some bonefish?
First of all that person should probably have a guide helping him. Also, it would be good practice for him to fish to schools of fish in slightly deeper water. Not classic bonefishing or the kind I prefer to do, but for beginners it can be very fun, and they can perfect the cast, strip and hook set.
For more traditional flats fishing, someone like your Dad needs a lot of shots at bones, so the Bahamas, Mexico or Belize would be good. Or the Seychelles! Beginners need to keep their interest up with lots of opportunities, and with each shot at bonefish they’ll learn something new. The more shots the better.
Thanks Vince and good fishing.
How did it get to be mid-June? Man… time is just flying by here. Here are some bits from around the web.
In other news…
The US got a point of England in the World Cup. Awesome. I love the World Cup… watching now.
I caught a recent bonefishy mention regarding Zach Gilford, the Friday Night Lights star and Gus in The River Why.
Turns out he’s working on a show for the Outdoor Channel with Michael Keaton and Tom Brokaw down in Belize… the show is bonefish-centric.
Kind of sounds like Pirates 2.
Whatever it is, I want to see it… see, bonefish are kind of my thing.
Beyond the mention on Chelsea Lately, I don’t see another word about the bonefishing TV project. I’ll have to ask around. If you know something, please share.
Fresh on the heels of seeing a douchebag bow hunting for bonefish in Bimini, I see this…
I know this sort of thing is subjective… they eat horses in France, other places people eat guinea pigs, people do all sorts crazy things that are morally subjective.
Still… guys talking about using a bonefish as bait… a fish that is so economically important to so many folks… uff da… come on folks.
Puerto Rico is not one of the first places you probably think of when words like “bonefish” or “tarpon” are bandied about. However, there are bonefish there and there is a history of bonefishing that many are not aware of. One guy who knows a bit about the fishery there is local guide/gringo Chris Goldmark. He’s been guiding the waters of Culebra (one of the islands of Puerto Rico) sine 1991… meaning I was still in High School when he started.
Chris, Puerto Rico and bonefish… can you give a lay of the land in terms of where they are and what the fishery is like?
Bone fish populations in PR are largely limited to the two eastern islands of Culebra and Vieques with a few scattered pockets of fish around the “Big“ island. This was not always the case. The flats of La Parguera on the south west coast of PR once hosted one of the largest and healthiest populations of Bone fish found anywhere in the entire Caribbean basin. These flats were for the most part gill netted to extinction in the 80’s and early 90’s when the demand for Bone fish for bait was at an all time high.
Today both Culebra and Vieques have healthy populations of Bones although not in the great numbers of years past. Culebra still boasts of having some of the largest fish in the Caribbean.
How did you end up in PR as a bonefishing guide? Seems an unlikely landing spot.
Back in the late 80’s, I was visiting Mike Vergis the founding father of the famous tarpon fishery in San Juan . We ended up, after a few drinks and a ferry ride, in a bar in Culebra. I fell in love with the island and brought my wife with me for a weeks visit the following year. Half way through our stay she informed me that she had taken a job and that I could stay or leave but she was definitely not going home. Apparently in the early stages of a marriage common sense seems to hover on the fringes of that pink zone….I stayed, No regrets.
What’s the oddest or most interesting thing you’ve seen out on the flats of PR?
The Puerto Ricans are a serious party culture. I say this totally respectfully. I was guiding a gentleman back in the early nineties during a major Puerto Rican holiday in Culebra, something I rarely do today because of excessive boat traffic etc. We were wading one of the major flats and came upon a family who had set up beach chairs in a semi circle on the sand and marl complete with coolers ,umbrellas and a boom box. My client and I skirted the party but upon looking back I noticed a Bone fish pop a tail 10 feet from a drunk passed out in a beach chair. Suddenly six more tails popped up and I instructed my man to cast appropriately. Hooked up!! The fish, about an 8 lb Bone goes completely insane . The drunks start chasing the fish, the fly line becomes snagged on a cooler, three party goers fall face down on the flat and of course the fish breaks off. So much for stealth. Salude!
Gillnets are still present in PR waters. Can you give an idea of the impact those nets are having and what needs to happen to get the nets out of the water?
Bone fish are not normally targeted specifically by gill netters but they often become a significant by catch when fishermen set on schools of Bar Jacks and Chapin (box fish) which inhabit a lot of the same areas as the Bones. PR needs to recognize the value of Bone fish, Permit and Tarpon to the tourist economy. They haven’t come to grips with that yet. Myself and one of PR,s most famous Tarpon guides, Francisco Rosario from Boqueron on the west coast, as well as Fernando Monllor one of the top fly fishers in Puerto Rico have done the usual lobbying, petitioning ,the whole thing. We keep pointing to Belize and saying when are you guys going to get it!! Things move very slowly in Puerto Rico. There are a lot of holidays.
Not being one of the better known fisheries, do you get people coming to PR specifically for the bonefishing or do you more have people who are doing it as part of a family vacation?
Both. I have many clients who come to specifically to target the big Bones Culebra is famous for. I also have a lot of first time clients who are just down on vacation and want to learn how to fly fish and experience what the flats are all about.
Are there any fly shops in PR or are you forced to rely on internet shopping?
There are no fly shops in PR. I tie all my own and buy off the internet or from the “compleat Angler” in Darien ,CT.
You have a favorite place to eat? A place to recommend to traveling anglers for cheap and decent lodging?
“Mamacitas” my wife has been the dinner chef there for 19 years also for lunch “El Batay” owned and operated by one of my best friends and soon to be Mayor, Tomas Ayala. Lodging..Villa Boheme and Jim
Galasso for rentals 787 742 6752
What’s your favorite rod/reel at the moment?
My favorite rod is a 7 wt Gatti or any Gatti or Sage blank finished by master rod builder George Costa. www.fathammy.com …..Reels. I am the connoisseur of cheep reels. My favorites the Okuma SLV and the Pflueger Trion. Both are around $100 and will handle double digit Bone Fish as well as any reel built by a Hungarian, That’s a tough one too. I’m half Hungarian.
Think PR will, at some point, be the 51st State?
Not likely any time soon. The first thing you learn living in Puerto Rico especially as a Norte Americano is to be very careful discussing politicas. I believe I have answered the question.
Thanks Chris!
I headed off North today with my 3.5 year old and dog. My wife was on her way to NYC for business, so I went to go spend some time with Grandma and Grandpa.
The drive… well… there was a lot of screaming…
Eventually, she got tired of screaming and let herself go to sleep. Luckily, she only screamed for about 2 of the 5 hours.
We’ve had a really wet winter/spring here in Northern California and we needed it. Driving over Shasta Reservoir and seeing all that water made me happy. There should be some water left over for salmon and steelhead this year.
Always love this sight…
Luckily, my daughter has grown to love fly shops. Had to stop off at the Ted Fay Fly Shop for a few odds and ends.
After arriving at my folks place and watching my daughter run to say hello to her grandparents I made a little scouting trip to see just how high the river was… WOW! I’ve never seen the river with so much water at this point in the year. That’s a LOT of water for the Upper Sac.
Still… it wasn’t brown, just high. When the river is high like that the amount of river you can fish is greatly reduced, but the amount of river the fish can find shelter in is also greatly reduced. You just have to find a seam and go deep.
Hmmm… what should I throw?
Success.
Few folks would likely even try to fish the river at these flows… but it can be done. I didn’t even put on waders, just stood on a rock and fished the same water for an hour. Caught 2, lost 2. On a normal day that would be a little bit of a slow strike rate, but, given the conditions, I’m pretty happy about it.
This isn’t a fishing trip, it is a family trip, so we’ll see how often I get to fish, but it was fun to see the river when it was angry and still manage to sweet talk a couple trout from her fast flowing currents.